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Mystariea Offline
#1 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 7:34:22 PM(UTC)
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Thank you to whoever suggested talking to a local sign company to get scrap pieces of vinyl! I couldn't find your post again.
My mom stopped by the sign company in our small town today and was given a bunch of nice big scrap pieces for me!
The boxes the guy put them in both say Oracal 651 (outdoor vinyl right?). The pieces inside have markings on the back that either say nothing at all, Oracal 651, or Avery Graphics. What is the best cut for these. I'm assuming all are outdoor vinyls. I can use these indoor though if I don't care about removing right? I have a mirror I want to try something on. Is the 3-3-3 "kiss cut" the best for this type of vinyl too?
Also.. some of the vinyl is reflective. Does this make a difference. It feels the same as the other vinyl.
One roll says Iron On. Not sure how to use this one either.
I am using an Expression and I have both the standard and deep cut blades.

Thanks everyone for your help!
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:31:12 AM(UTC)
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I usually use the 3-3-3 on my Expression with vinyl, last night i was cutting Oracal 631 and had to change my blade to 2 actually i might need to change the pressure because it is cutting down to the paper. And i use the regular blade, so give it a try.
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#3 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 8:15:06 AM(UTC)
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Mystariea,

The 3-3-3 setting really depends on the age of your blade and mat. Always do a test cut and make adjustments when needed.

If you got scraps from a commercial sign company, then the vinyl with no markings on the back is probably Gerber brand. With both the Avery and the Gerber, they don't specify which model so you will have to guess. All outdoor glossy vinyl is thinner than the Oracal Matte vinyl. Matte vinyl is 3 mils thick, the outdoor vinyl is between 2 and 2.5 mils thick. The more expensive/longer lasting the thinner the vinyl. So you may need to tweak your settings even more to accommodate the thinner vinyl. The metallics will probably be 2 mils thick.

The iron-on vinyl is even thinner. It comes on a clear plastic backing rather than wax paper. Make your cut in reverse, then weed off the excess. The iron on vinyl is not sticky, but the plastic backing is. So having the sticky on the opposite side makes for some interesting, but easier weeding. Then, once weeded, place face down on your t-shirt or other fabric. This will put the plastic side on top. The sticky side of the plastic will help hold your sheet in place on the fabric. Then iron on using your iron at (I believe) about 300 degrees. Every iron is different, so you may want to test it. My iron doesn't work well, because it has so many large holes. But a friend of mine uses a thin hard plastic sheet, like a thin plastic cutting board, over the vinyl to even things out. She says it works great.
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 9:26:23 AM(UTC)
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Thanks! I found that the 3-3-3 cut cuts through the background. I have successfully but using 2 (low) for pressure and 3 for speed and blade setting. I am in love with vinyl!
Now I just need to learn to layer the vinyl for multi colors :)
I'm going to have to take another look at the iron on vinyl. I haven't messed with it yet.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:07:52 AM(UTC)
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Hello,
I have 5 years experience about vinyl cutting.
Metallic Vinyl 
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#6 Posted : Saturday, December 08, 2012 11:16:26 PM(UTC)
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I think my cricut is cutting the vinyl too deep. how do i adjust this?
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#7 Posted : Sunday, December 09, 2012 8:28:54 AM(UTC)
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I am trying to cut vinyl on the E2 and when I start cutting it cuts out the first letter and then when cutting the second letter the blade moves through the first letter and cuts it in half. Any suggestions?
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#8 Posted : Sunday, December 09, 2012 8:45:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: devildogwife056f05906e Go to Quoted Post
I think my cricut is cutting the vinyl too deep. how do i adjust this?


You should adjust the blade depth from the housing. You can find a link to the cutting guide here. I hope that helps.
http://content.provocraf...de_CricutExpression2.pdf

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#9 Posted : Sunday, December 09, 2012 3:00:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: devildogwife056f05906e Go to Quoted Post
I think my cricut is cutting the vinyl too deep. how do i adjust this?


I set everything to 3, the blade depth, speed and pressure (Med), works great.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, December 09, 2012 3:01:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chelsea8440295d3d67 Go to Quoted Post
I am trying to cut vinyl on the E2 and when I start cutting it cuts out the first letter and then when cutting the second letter the blade moves through the first letter and cuts it in half. Any suggestions?


Is your mat sticky enough that it is holding the vinyl down to it? This happens to me when my mat isnt sticky enough or the paper/vinyl is raise up just a tad from the mat.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:00:44 PM(UTC)
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Hi,
I'm attempting to make vinyl signage on my boyfriend's new work truck to save some money. I did my research and found that I needed to use Oracle 651 for outdoor use. I originally saw that I needed to use the 3-3-3 settings on my Expression. Now, I see that should be using setting 2 for blade depth, however, that setting still cuts too deep in some spots. What do I do? I'm going to try setting the blade to 1to see if that's any better. Suggestions???
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:24:51 PM(UTC)
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So I asked a local sign maker for their old scrapes of vinyl and he asked me what thickness I want.. I don't know how to answer that.. Does anyone know?
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 06, 2014 6:12:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Elizabethemma090ca76d71 Go to Quoted Post
So I asked a local sign maker for their old scrapes of vinyl and he asked me what thickness I want.. I don't know how to answer that.. Does anyone know?


Hi Elizabeth-
Here is the link to the suggested material setting for our machine. http://content.provocraf...de_CricutExpression2.pdf on the side of the material, it list the thickness. I hope this helps you out. :) Happy Crafting.

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